السافرة .. سهلة المنال

Posted by Frankom On March 19, 2009 at 9:01 am

هذا المقال منشور اليوم في جريدة القبس الكويتية … شوفوا لغة الحوار ، ليس دفاعا عن الشيخ العوضي وليس انتقادا للكاتبة سعاد الحمد .. بس ماكوا طريقة ثانيا تقدرين توضيحن فيها وجهة نظرج الا بالهطريقة ؟

السافرة سهلة المنال
بقلم الشيخ نبيل العوضي
كتب سعاد خالد عبداللطيف الحمد :
مقال للشيخ نبيل العوضي في جريدة «الوطن» يوم الثلاثاء 17/3 جاء فيه حرفيا: «إن من نزعت الحجاب وكشفت عما حرمه الله فهي سهلة المنال، يستمتع بها كل صاحب قلب مريض وعينٍ خائنة، ربما تسببت بفتنة رجال وجرتهم الى الشهوات وحملت اوزارهم الى يوم القيامة».. ويطالب كل انثى بالحجاب من عمر تسع سنوات الى الممات.
مسكين الشيخ نبيل قلبه مريض وعينه خائفة، يخاف من الفتنة، وأوزاره كبيرة، فهو يدخل الاستديو في قناة «الوطن» ويشاهد السافرات وفي الفاصل تقع عينه على الاعلانات، ويسافر بالطائرة للمهمات وليس للسياحة، وكرسيه قرب النافذة فتقدم له المضيفة الطعام وانفاسها تهب على اللحية الطويلة فتجعلها تهفهف على الخدود وتطير وتطير.. الله يرحمك يا عبدالحليم حافظ. وينزل من الطائرة وتقع عينه على المنكر والنكير في ذلك البلد الغريب، فتزداد الشهوة والذنوب، هات الدليل يا نبيل على اننا نحن السافرات، جدات وامهات وبنات وحفيدات، سهلات المنال، فهل حدثت لك تجربة مع سافرة ام انك ملاك منزه؟! وما كتبته ما هو الا حرصك على رجالات الكويت من الشهوة فاطمئن يا شيخ، رجالات الكويت سافروا واختلطوا بالسافرات قبل ان تولد او حتى يولد الوالد ابوك، ونزعوا العباءة عن بناتهم وارسلوهن الى الجامعات في الخارج وفتحوا لهن مجال العمل في كل الوزارات مع زملائهن الرجال، وحضروا حفلات بناتهم الطالبات على مسرح المعاهد الخاصة مع ضيوف البلاد الكبار، فلم تثرهم شهوة ولم تتحمل السافرات أوزارا.
يا شيخ نبيل، اتهمت اهالي الاختلاط، ثم اتهمت أسراً بأنها تطلب من ابنائها عدم الصلاة والصوم، والآن تهاجم السافرات، والله إنك من سيتحمل اوزار هذه الاسر، وخصوصا انك رجل دين وتتهم من دون دليل يا نبيل.
والسلام

جريدة القبس

32 Responses

  1. Khalid Says:

    Your’ contact option is not working when I try pasting a website, check this out

    http://www.alraimedia.com/Alrai/Article.aspx?id=119467

    Since you once wrote about this

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    Frankom Reply:

    it is working !
    try again ..

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 9:22 AM

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  2. Abdulmohsen Says:

    يمكن سبب اللهجة القاسية هي ان فضيلة الشيخ لا ينتبه الا اذا خاطبه شخص بنفس اسلوبه البايخ و الاستفزازي.

    سافرات شنو؟ اهلنا و خواتنا سهلات المنال؟ هل اهو ولي امرنا علشان يقول هالكلام؟

    الصراحة شي يحر و ما الوم الكاتبة، اذا قالت ان نبيل العوضي ارهابي و رجعي شلون بتصير ردة فعله؟ يقول جزاك الله خير؟

    حبيت اقول الله يعين عياله على هالتفكير (او تكفير-ايهما اصح)

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    Frankom Reply:

    Abdulmohsen : أقل شوي من عاهرات :)

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 9:49 AM

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  3. Abdulmohsen Says:

    Frankom:

    ههههه اعرف المعنى انا اقصد شلون يقول هالحجي

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    Frankom Reply:

    مو حتى صاحبنا اسولبه الله بالخير بس لاتكبر :)

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 10:04 AM

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  4. Khalid Says:

    thats the error i get

    You can not use any of the following in the Subject, Name or Email fields: a linebreak, or the phrases ‘mime-version’, ‘content-type’, ‘cc:’, ‘bcc:’, ‘http://’, or ‘to:’. Additionally, ‘’ (and all HTML) tags are also prohibited.

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    Frankom Reply:

    Khalid: i will try to fix it.

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 10:09 AM

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  5. عبدالمنعم الحسين Says:

    صحيح أن أسلوب نبيل العوضي لا يعجبني
    لكن لا يمنع أني أقول أنه ناجح وله جمهوره العريض
    تحياتي لقلمه ولجهده وعذرا من كل المهاجمين للشيخ نبيل

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 10:12 AM

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  6. Abdulmohsen Says:

    شسوي غصب علي

    اذا شفته بالتلفزيون يعتفس يومي

    يحرررررررررررررررر

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 10:15 AM

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  7. Abdullah Says:

    This is the only “Shaikh” I hate. Well, him and the other guy who said kill “Micky Mouse” both are total retards.

    This guy is very judgmental, every time i see him on TV i want to slap him, he claims :

    - the above statement malat frankom.

    - everybody who listens to music must drink alcohol. ok WTF ?? i’v been listening to music ever since i was a kid, i grew up with music and strong religious background, so please spare us your “wise knowledge”

    - those who own dogs and walk’em beach side are immitating the west ? what the hell ?? what do you know about arabic history ?

    - The show he had in ramadan, where he was judging those who worship the fire. he kept nagging on how stupid and ignorant they are ,, PLEASE SHUT UP !! do not judge ! who are you to judge ? you think if you degrade them, you’ll show your people that they have an upper hand ? how foolish !

    - went to the grand mosque, he was there, between breaks he was explaining the quran verses, he kept talking about non-believers as if they are worthless animals, why ? arent we all slaves in the end of the day ?

    spare us your stupidity and ignorance, i applaud the woman who ate him up, up there.

    Since you dont belong to core kuwaiti society or its entity, its obvious how exposed you are to those who represent the “low end” of us as a community. go preach there and do keep it there.

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 10:17 AM

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  8. forzaq8 Says:

    منو قال عندها اسلوب اصلا

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 11:30 AM

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  9. nbq Says:

    يا جماعة الخير.. يعني الاعتراض على كلمة سافرات؟
    ترى الكلمة لم ترد في مقال العوضي بتاتاً! (مع أن استخدامها لغوية هنا صحيح). وأنا لست مدافعاً عنه بل وقد اختلف معه في الأسلوب.

    أما “سهلة المنال”. فلننظر إلى تعريف كلمة “نيل”:
    في لسان العرب:
    “( نيل ) نِلت الشيء نَيْلاً ونالاً ونالةً وأَنَلْته إِيّاه وأَنَلْتُ له ونِلْته.
    والنَّيْل والنائِل ما نِلْته وما أَصاب منه نَيْلاً
    أَنالُ أَي أَصَبْت ويقال نالَني من فلان معروف يَنالُني أَي وَصَل إِليّ منه
    وفلان يَنالُ من عِرْضِ فلان إِذا سَبَّه”

    يعني ببساطة، “النيل” ممكن نقول أنه الوصول إلى الشيء والحصول عليه.

    الآن قولوا لي… إذا رأى رجل امرأة عريانة تماماً في السوق، فقد نال منها بسهولة جداً (بغض النظر عما ناله وكيف) فهي قد سهلت له الأمر للغاية. طيب، إذا كانت عريانة من الجزء العلوي فقط، فقد نال منها أيضا ولكن ليس من كلها فقد سهلت له الجزء العلوي فقط. وهلم جراً إلى أن نصل إلى امرأة غطت كل شيء إلا رأسها، فهو قد نال منها أيضا بمقدار ما سهلت هي له بكشفه. يعني
    هذا كل ما في الأمر.
    والذي يريد أن يقوله الكاتب، أنه بما أن الأمر بيدك، فالأصل ألا تسهلي على النائل بقدر المستطاع، وكل المطلوب هو قطعة قماش تغطي سفور الشعر. فلا تكوني سببا في تسهيل المنال!

    أما أسلوب الكاتبة بخصوص موضوع شهوة الرجال، فهو أسلوب سخيف يستخدمه البعض عندما لا تعجبه النصيحة ومبدأ سد الذرائع. وكأن الرجال ملائكة على الأرض ليس لهم رغبة ولا شهوة ولا وجود لإبليس الذي يترصد للناس ويوسوس لهم. وكأن الشارع خالٍ من الضعاف والمهووسين. فالواجب الإعانة على التصدي لهذه الوساس بالوسائل المتاحة، فما بالك إذا كانت الوسيلة تعتبر فريضة؟ فالحجاب فريضة بغض النظر عن الحكمة من وراءه فرضه.

    ونفس النقطة بخصوص الاختلاط، ففرق بين الحاجة لذلك في الأسواق وغيرها بطريقة عابرة، وبين الاختلاط مع نفس الأشخاص يوما بعد يوم بعد يوم. والله الجبين يندب للمستوى الذي “تطيح فيه الميانة” بين الجنسين من قبل البعض في أماكن العمل (من حيث الكلام والتكعكع والكلمات المستخدمة).

    ذكرني هذا بشيء: نفس ما يصورون لنا الأمريكان: الوالدين يسلمون بنتهم المراهقة وهي متجملة بآخر مكياج و مرتدية أحسن فستان ويسلمونها لرفيقها (المتروس بالهرمونات) للذهاب إلى حفلة الرقص السنوية في الثانوية PROM. ويقصون على نفسهم “احنا نثق فيها، ربيناها أحسن تربية!” لوووول. مو يا اخوان، جزء من التربية الصحيحة هو تجنب مثل هذه المناسبات والمرافق! وطبعا، ما كو طريقة %100 يعرفون فيها شنو اللي صار بينهم في تلك الليلة بالضبط!!

    وسلامتكم.

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 11:58 AM

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  10. nbq Says:

    regarding the kill Mickey Mouse shaikh,it was a total misrepresentation of what he said.

    He launched an explanation (in surprisingly very good English language) on youtube months ago:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUGUldjgAL4

    So please understand him before you “hate” him ;p

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 12:03 PM

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  11. Abdullah Says:

    NBQ, thank you for the video.

    I dont know if you agree with me or not, but the guy kept moving round n round in cricles around the object without directly approaching it.

    regardless, your message is clear, hate has now changed to DIS-Like. how about that ? ;P

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 12:59 PM

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  12. Abdullah Says:

    NBQ, i did tell you that this guy is a total retard up there right ??

    ok ,, he says in the video you provided that he was “SPEAKING” and they translated it wrong ,, right ?

    well, watch this please, and tell me what you think:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmgFQiaYEdk&feature=related

    p.s: the video i chose is short and to the point. ENJOY

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 1:07 PM

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  13. صقر Says:

    اذا هناك احد من المعجبين ب نبيل العوضي فسوف يفسر ما جاء بمقاله مثل الاخ المحترم nbq

    اما عن نفسي , فأقول بحياديه كلمه واحد

    مثل هذه المقالات و العبارات يجب ان لا تأتي من رجل دين!

    على العموم الله يعين اسرته بأفكاره

    نكته هالنبيل العوضي

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 1:17 PM

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  14. f Says:

    ما أعتقد أنها أخطأت

    نبيل العوضي شيخ منحط قاعد ويوزع صكوك الشرف والعفة على ناس وينزعها على آخرين

    على أي أساس يقول سهلة المنال هالكلام شغل متخلفين

    المشكلة باللي يطالع ويتحرش مو باللي مو لابسه

    لان في مليون وحده متحجبة والناس يخزونها ويطالعونها

    يعني شنو سهلة المنال

    إقرأ مقالاته وتابع برنامجه في الوطن يسب ويشتم أكثر من الوعظ والإرشاد

    حتلا البروموشن مال الوطن يقول تبا لكم

    تبا له وعاشت الكاتبة

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 4:13 PM

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  15. نواف Says:

    احسست لوهلة ان الشيخ نبيل سل السيوف وسحب السياط .. كل ما كتبه هو مقال ولا اعلم عن ما قاله إلا في مقاله الا حقيقة فرضية الحجاب على كل مرأة في مجتمع نرى في الإحصائيات أن أكثر من 90% منه مسلمين ! .. الحجاب فرض على كل إمرأة مسلمة بإجماع الفقهاء فلم الغضب كلما تم ذكره أم أن كلمة قاسية تلفت الإنتباه إلى أهمية الموضوع أغضبت السافرة والسهلة المنال :)

    نواف

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 4:43 PM

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  16. على باب الله Says:

    متفق معاك في كل كلمة قلتها , أنا سعيد أني وقعت في مدونتك

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 5:01 PM

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  17. nbq Says:

    Abdullah,
    I watched the video with the translation in captions.
    I think what he means by “translated wrong” is that although the words maybe exact word by word, the context is not conveyed, and thus lost in translation… he wasn’t saying it as a matter of fact, it was more of a sarcastic/kidding/ironic kind of way to make his point. This is what every objective person listening to someone saying “a cartoon character should be killed” would understand. The media reporting on it however, made it like “Muslim clerics call for killing of cartoon characters”!!

    Thanks,
    NBQ.

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 6:40 PM

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  18. البرزنجي Says:

    وهل المحجبات صعبات المنال ؟

    لا أعتقد .. الحجاب لا يمنع ولا يسمح ..العقل هو من يمنع ويسمح ولكن من أين آتي بالعقل للمتشايخ العوضي؟

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 7:14 PM

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  19. TruTh Says:

    واضح من كلام الشيخ نبيل ان سالفة سهلة المنال يقصد فيها النظر للسافرة

    اهوا ما قاعد يطعن في شرف السافرة
    لكن قاعد يقول ان الرياييل يستمتعون في شكلها و
    برايي ان ما قال شي غلط و لا ياب شي من جيبه
    ديننا يقول هالكلام

    اعتقد كلنا نشوف بالافلام شلون مرات يحطون لنا ممثل يقعد يسولف مع رفيجه عن وحدة شافها و ين على شعرها و شغلات ثانية

    والافلام تجسد حال المجتمع واللي يدور فيه
    وليش نروح بعيد،لو ما كانت المرأة السافرة تفتن عيل ليش يستخدمونها بالدعايات؟؟؟؟؟

    انا اتفق معاك اخوي فرانكوم ما عجبني اسلوب الكاتبة

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 7:50 PM

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  20. nbq Says:

    Abdullah,
    Now, about your earlier comments about al-Awadhi. As I said, I may not agree with his style (different people have different styles and approaches depending on the situation and topic), but most of the points you listed about his “claims” are not without backing from the religion! It’s just that things are much diluted today and these Islamic topics/subjects are no longer taught clearly to us in the education system (given our political/military subjugation to the ‘international community’ powers and globalization and our reliance on them in many aspects due to our weakness and disbandment). But when we refer to the authorities/references in our religion, you will find that they are in alignment with the point of view. In particular, your objection on his “judging” of people.
    I include a few quotations to perhaps clarify:

    - Worshiping fire (i.e. blasphemy & idol worship and rejection of monotheism) and “non-believers worthless animals”:

    “Fie upon you, and upon the things that ye worship besides Allah! Have ye no sense?”. (21:67)

    I don’t know what he said at the grand mosque that you didn’t like, but it is highly unlikely that he was saying something that was totally baseless? So, I hope your objection is more to the style and appropriateness of time and location of what was being said and not the concepts that are most likely aligned with the related principles in our religion; in addition, you should differentiate between the day-to-day dealings with non-believers as individuals in the society and between what our feelings and status in our hearts towards the non-believers non-belief should be: that of dislike:

    “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those with him are firm against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves;” (48:29)
    (Is it any wonder we are so subjugated nowadays when we see the applying of the opposite of the verse above. Firm and hard against believers (e.g. because they are of different ‘nationality’) and friendly and smiley with the non-believers and imitating them on matters we shouldn’t!

    “Evil is the likeness of the people who reject Our revelation and are unjust to their own souls.” (7:177) followed by:
    “Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).” (7:179)

    As you know, monotheism is the gist of Islam and it is the first message conveyed by all messengers. So, we cannot really value our belief and affirm its correctness and at the same time take a lenient view on beliefs and acts that directly violate it and reject Allah’s revelation; particularly, worshiping fire in 2009?! I think that might be part of why we are so subjugated today.
    Allah says:
    “And be not infirm, and be not grieving, and you shall have the upper hand if you are (indeed) believers” (3:139)

    - “Since you dont belong to core kuwaiti society or its entity”
    I think that was uncalled for. Besides, Islamic religion and the various views in it do not belong to a particular society and not others? That’s like rejecting the opinions of a non-Kuwaiti doctor or social scientist because he is of different nationality, regardless of whether you agree with their analysis or not.

    Thanks,
    NBQ.Abdullah,
    Now, about your earlier comments about al-Awadhi. As I said, I may not agree with his style (different people have different styles and approaches depending on the situation and topic), but most of the points you listed about his “claims” are not without backing from the religion! It’s just that things are much diluted today and these Islamic topics/subjects are no longer taught clearly to us in the education system (given our political/military subjugation to the ‘international community’ powers and globalization and our reliance on them in many aspects due to our weakness and disbandment). But when we refer to the authorities/references in our religion, you will find that they are in alignment with the point of view. In particular, your objection on his “judging” of people.
    I include a few quotations to perhaps clarify:

    - Worshiping fire (i.e. blasphemy & idol worship and rejection of monotheism) and “non-believers worthless animals”:

    “Fie upon you, and upon the things that ye worship besides Allah! Have ye no sense?”. (21:67)

    I don’t know what he said at the grand mosque that you didn’t like, but it is highly unlikely that he was saying something that was totally baseless? So, I hope your objection is more to the style and appropriateness of time and location of what was being said and not the concepts that are most likely aligned with the related principles in our religion; in addition, you should differentiate between the day-to-day dealings with non-believers as individuals in the society and between what our feelings and status in our hearts towards the non-believers non-belief should be: that of dislike:

    “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those with him are firm against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves;” (48:29)
    (Is it any wonder we are so subjugated nowadays when we see the applying of the opposite of the verse above. Firm and hard against believers (e.g. because they are of different ‘nationality’) and friendly and smiley with the non-believers and imitating them on matters we shouldn’t!

    “Evil is the likeness of the people who reject Our revelation and are unjust to their own souls.” (7:177) followed by:
    “Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).” (7:179)

    As you know, monotheism is the gist of Islam and it is the first message conveyed by all messengers. So, we cannot really value our belief and affirm its correctness and at the same time take a lenient view on beliefs and acts that directly violate it and reject Allah’s revelation; particularly, worshiping fire in 2009?! I think that might be part of why we are so subjugated today.
    Allah says:
    “And be not infirm, and be not grieving, and you shall have the upper hand if you are (indeed) believers” (3:139)

    - “Since you dont belong to core kuwaiti society or its entity”
    I think that was uncalled for. Besides, Islamic religion and the various views in it do not belong to a particular society and not others? That’s like rejecting the opinions of a non-Kuwaiti doctor or social scientist because he is of different nationality, regardless of whether you agree with their analysis or not.

    Thanks,
    NBQ.

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 8:25 PM

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  21. AIC Says:

    من يقول ان الحجاب لا يمنع؟

    وهل اذا صار لا يمنع فمعناه ان السفور حلال؟

    وهل انتم من يحلل او يحرم الحجاب؟

    مع اني لا أحب السماع للشيخ نبيل العوضي, الا انه لم يخطئ هنا وكل ما قاله هو رأي الاسلام في الحجاب وسبب فرضه ولكن اذا كنت تحاول مناقشة الدين فهذا شأن آخر

    ولكن من الناحية الاخرى فالكاتبة تهجمت على شخصه والكل يعرف انه من يريد الانتقاد يجب عليه انتقاد ما قاله الشخص او اسلوبه وليس انتقاد شخصه وتجريحه او تسفيهه

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  22. العرزالــــــــــــــــه Says:

    اتفق معاك ومع الاخ Truth

    كلامكم منطقي ومتزن وبعيد عن الانفعال

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    Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 11:04 PM

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  23. hohoo Says:

    ياخي نبيل العوضي اسلوبه في شي من الوصاخه

    اكثر من مره يكتب مقال بلغه واطيه

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    Posted on March 20th, 2009 at 3:16 AM

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  24. Abdullah Says:

    NBQ, I thank you, honestly for taking the time to clarify things for me and other fellow readers.

    My dear, you and I believe in one thing, GOD right ? well he is the almighty, he is the one who will judge us, not nabil. clear ?

    So, for you to bring clever quotes is beyond amazing, BUT these quotes came from the creator of all it is that we know, Not Nabil.

    Nabil is nothing but a slave. so for him to point his fingers at people and say whatever he wants to say just because he is a “Muslim” a “follower” and other as animals because they are “non-believers” is beyond ignorance.

    My dear, please note that I do not disagree with you. I disagree in the way he speaks to others, the way he points his fingers to them.

    Have we forgotten about that the almighty, in judgement day, will choose a random pick from NON-BELIEVERS and throw them in heaven, just because he wants to ,, no judgement. at all!

    NBQ, the point here is not to give yourself (nabil) credit by showing how “Right” you are and degrading others because they do not read the same page your reading.

    The society flick i threw at him is not going to change, EVER. WHy ?

    he claims that Kuwaiti families (high-med levels) are soo attached to materliastic elements to the extent that they tell their kids not to pray ?? WHERE THE HELL DOES HE COME WITH THIS NONSENSE ??

    Suppose ya NBQ ina he means well ,, but he has a bad way in delivering it, fine ,,, but why hateful ya nabil ?? why ?? why showcase this society as ignorant and stupid ?

    oh regarding this ? “That’s like rejecting the opinions of a non-Kuwaiti doctor or social scientist because he is of different nationality, regardless of whether you agree with their analysis or not.” i can not reject thier ideas, their ideas are based on many steps like infections, meditation and finally a cure, in other words, FACTS.

    this guy on the other hand, is ridiculous.

    People i love watching and are judgment free include:

    Tariq Al-Suwaidan – his face is sooooo relaxing, i love him. (“wa la takoon ghaleethan” ya nabil)

    Amro Khalid – he is so good and flawless to the extent that he is respected globally, and a special islamic representative in the UK.

    Islam is not suppose to be spread through hate and making people feel stupid. Its through love and enlightenment.

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    Posted on March 20th, 2009 at 8:23 PM

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  25. nbq Says:

    Abdullah,

    When you say “for him to point his fingers at people and say whatever he wants to say…. is beyond ingorance”

    I doubt he has pointed to people by name. The only time I heard him point by name is when thanking people for their efforts. This is what the Prophet (saa) used to do, he pointed things out that people were doing wrong without pointing by name instead saying “ما بال أقوام يفعلون كذا وكذا”. So, what is wrong with that? %50 of medication is recognizing the problem they say?

    In the medicine analogy, you mentioned their ideas are based on many steps like “infection, medication and finally a cure, in other words, FACTS” Well, you forgot an important steps which is “diagnosis” and I think that’s part of what Nabeel is doing. Pointing out the symptoms and the diagnosis.

    Also when you say doctors’s steps are based on FACTS, well that’s what Nabeel is doing. He’s not bringing anything form himself. He is basing his diagnosis on FACTS from another field: Islamic jurisprudence. Unless that is, one does not consider what Allah has sent us as facts or that the commandments in the Quran are not applicable today? Which no recognized Muslim scholar would say.

    “for you to bring clever quotes is beyond amazing, BUT these quotes came from the creator of all it is that we know, Not Nabil”

    So? You are not saying that there is no role for preachers and scholars to spread quotes from the Creator for remembrance? It’s like saying the same thing to a doctor: bringing clever quotes from Medical books!! so shame on you doctor for doing that?! “وذكر فإن الذكرى تنفع المؤمنين”

    “he claims that Kuwaiti families (high-med levels) are soo attached to materliastic elements to the extent that they tell their kids not to pray ?? WHERE THE HELL DOES HE COME WITH THIS NONSENSE ??”

    The above is a stereotype which I doubt he said in this way. I think I know where the problem is. It seems perhaps you are taking in personally when you said: “Kuwaiti families high-mid levels)”? I seriously doubt he meant to generalize. It’s just known from history that mankind when living in wealth and ease, they tend to forget (tend, not always); and when mankind is stricken with adversity, they ten to remember Allah. That is what we are told in the Quran. So, this is not limited to high-mid class Kuwaiti families at all; but Nabeel is based in Kuwait and that’s what he’s dealing with.

    (فأما الإنسان إذا ما ابتلاه ربه وأكرمه ونعمه فيقول ربي أكرمن) (وأما إذا قدر عليه رزقه فيقول ربي أهانن)

    By the way, Nabeel wrote an article today about the anti-hijab campaign activities:

    http://www.alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?tabid=164&article_id=492768&AuthorID=1087

    Thanks.
    NBQ

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    Posted on March 22nd, 2009 at 6:44 AM

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  26. nbq Says:

    استغفر الله
    تصحيح لنقل للآيات
    “فَأَمَّا الْإِنْسَانُ إِذَا مَا ابْتَلَاهُ رَبُّهُ فَأَكْرَمَهُ وَنَعَّمَهُ فَيَقُولُ رَبِّي أَكْرَمَنِ وَأَمَّا إِذَا مَا ابْتَلَاهُ فَقَدَرَ عَلَيْهِ رِزْقَهُ فَيَقُولُ رَبِّي أَهَانَنِ”

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  28. koko9690 Says:

    السلام عليكم اخواني في الدين اريد ان انبهكم حفظكم الله الى امر وهو ان الاسلام دعى الى الحوار ووضح اساليبه ومناهجه افهكذا الحوار؟؟سب وشتم ولاادري ماذا!!الحقيقة ياقوم ان هذه المقالة رد صريح على مقاطعة الحجاب والدعوة الى السفور ومن قال ان المشكل في الذي يعاكس كيف يعاكس وحدة وهي مغطية كل جزء من جسدها واصلا لماذا يعاكس اذا لم يرى شيئ فتنه وأثار شهوته يبدو جليا ان وضعنا اصبح منحطا فعلا اصبح نهاجم حتى المشايخ يعني الدين لاحول ولا قوة الا بالله قال الله تعالى “”ولا تبرجي تبرج الجاهلية الاولى”"” كما أمر المؤمنات بإرتداء الحجاب فقال
    {يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لِّأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاء الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِن جَلَابِيبِهِنَّ ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلَا يُؤْذَيْنَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا}(1)
    فالمراة عندما تخرج سافرة مبدية زينتها لغير محارمها تثير الشهوة في نفوس الشباب فيطمع الذي في قلبه مرض فالحجاب الحجاب يأخوات الحجاب والصلاة …….والسلام عليكم

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